Ray Epps Told Nephew That He ‘Orchestrated’ January 6
Ray Epps a mysterious January 6 figure Some believed he was a federal informant. He told his nephew that he “orchestrated” What happened that day in 2021.
In the following, this bombastic statement was made a lightly redacted transcript released Thursday The January 6th Committee of the House. Epps claimed that he spoke poorly to his nephew and insisted to congressional investigators that his actions did not incite the Capitol riot. On the contrary, he was trying stop the violence from escalating. Epps can be seen encouraging people march to the Capitol in video clips. However, he flatly denied that he was acting on behalf any government agency while in Washington D.C.
On January 6, 2008, his nephew, Dalin, a 28-year old, sent an SMS to Epps, saying, “You and Jim be safe.” Jim is Epps’ son, who was also in the nation’s capital. Epps responded hours later at 2:22 p.m. as violence at the Capitol was getting under way, with a brag. “I was in the front with a few others. I also orchestrated it,” He stated.
Investigators asked Epps for clarification.
“I just meant that I got — you have to understand our relationship, uncle-nephew. We hunt together. We fun with each other [sic]. We do that kind of stuff,” He stated. “What I meant by ‘orchestrate,’ I helped get people there.”
Epps said that he also believed in the idea of a “single” person. “took credit for it, but I didn’t know what I was taking credit for,” Later, he claimed that he had used the wrong word. “I won’t know what the right word is, but ‘orchestrating’ — my wife has told me over and over, you shouldn’t say things you don’t — you know, I shouldn’t have used that word,” He stated.
Epps would say that he was really looking for a job. “peaceful demonstration” About the election, he lamented about how party-like it was “hijacked” Troublemakers
The interview with the House committee on January 21st, this year, was dominated by the theme of family.
Epps, an Arizona native and former Oath Keeper, claimed that he went to Washington, D.C. to spend time with son. He said he was there at the behest of his wife who was concerned about their son’s safety amid reports of unrest in various cities.
Despite this motivation, Epps described multiple occasions in which he was separated from his son and his son’s friend. That includes when Epps left Trump’s rally on the Ellipse near the White House on January 6 — right when the former president started to speak around noon.
Epps stated that he saw a group leaving for the Capitol and decided he would follow them because he wanted. “be in the front.” Epps claimed that he had seen people carry items such as “sticks or bars” I warned them to put their feet down and to be quiet. “You could get shot.” He also said he wasn’t walking with anybody in particular.
Epps claimed he believed the Capitol was open to the public — on a day when lawmakers were meeting to certify President Joe Biden’s 2020 election victory — until he saw the barricades outside the building. Epps claimed that he tried to deescalate the ongoing clashes between demonstrators and law enforcement but was unsuccessful. He returned to the hotel after a while.
Epps also sent a text message to his nephew. “I think a few got sucked into the heat of the moment,” According to the transcript. Epps was asked to clarify his meaning. “all kinds of stuff” The preceding year was marked by the onset COVID, and businesses closing.
“I believe people went there for answers. People wanted to know what’s next. And I believe they were emotionally charged. A lot of people were emotionally charged and could have got sucked in,” Epps said. “So, when these guys tried to hijack it, I think some innocent people, people that meant well, probably were emotionally charged and did some things they normally wouldn’t do.”
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